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Tyrone van leyen
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i got a "G" on my #4 tonite!
by bonnzo ini had the #4 talk tonite on 2nd peter-why beneficial.
i talked about you mean ol' postates.
i used 2pet 2:1-3 and even said the internet was a tool of satan to snare christians today.
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i got a "G" on my #4 tonite!
by bonnzo ini had the #4 talk tonite on 2nd peter-why beneficial.
i talked about you mean ol' postates.
i used 2pet 2:1-3 and even said the internet was a tool of satan to snare christians today.
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Tyrone van leyen
Oompa, I am not adressing his other threads. I am dealing with the issues you are avoiding. Please don't make me repeat the issues. I knew by adressing the thread which you wrote neutrally, would force you to take sides. I understand he's your freind. It's good you support your bud. That's ok!
Perhaps this was a contrived attempt at humour, but by the facetious manner, in which the opening was written, I would have to say, "for your laughs", not ours. Rub our noses in 2cd Peter, Pat yourself on the head with your G and then come here askin for a shoe shine, while degrading folks who don't like your approach. This stinks of witness arrogance and as I said before, a twisted sense of humour.
I could have ended this a long time ago, if Bonnzo would quit callin me stupid, but we're dealing with a man who has an out of control ego.
He's probably too proud, to even thank me, for giving him his longest thread. This is just a reality check for you dude. You don't have to thank me. I understand.
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How stupid do I think I am?
by AK - Jeff intoday, as i wait for the grout on the kitchen floor to dry, i began to ponder...... i wonder looking back just how insensitive to reality i could have been to have spent the vastness of my youth and midlife believing the obvious lies of jehovah's witnesses.
though i enjoy my freedom, i have no foundational background upon which to prop it.
though having a sense of being reborn, that rebirth has taken place late in life, and has left me feeling somewhat empty.
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Tyrone van leyen
Amen! Thanks for the powerful words, Jeff. Good outlook for a new year man.
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How stupid do I think I am?
by AK - Jeff intoday, as i wait for the grout on the kitchen floor to dry, i began to ponder...... i wonder looking back just how insensitive to reality i could have been to have spent the vastness of my youth and midlife believing the obvious lies of jehovah's witnesses.
though i enjoy my freedom, i have no foundational background upon which to prop it.
though having a sense of being reborn, that rebirth has taken place late in life, and has left me feeling somewhat empty.
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Tyrone van leyen
Such an experience can make one more compassionate to their fellowman, but depending on the type of person you are, it could also make ya meaner too. I try to be more understanding, but there is definately an anxiety that comes from lost time.
The other thing is that we just can't live the past in the same head as we have today. I think the definition of fun might change somewhat as we age. I spent a lot of years indulging but it was more of a reaction than a studied exploration. As I have shut the world out for the last couple of years, I suspect I am processing my street years and then state of mind. I too have made some conclusions.
The thing that gets me is, why now? What a waste. And there's still plenty to learn! I already knew at 28, that by my state of mind, at the time, it would be at least another 10 to 15 to get any peace.
When you first leave home you may not know why on a conscious level. All your mind is saying is, I gotta get out of this toxic eviornment. And you do. It is only years later, do you become aware of why, on a consious level.
A supportive family could have reduced that time in half. Positive affirmation, reduced guilt, reduced fear, acceptance, protection. ( Refering to being shunned) I think reading would have helped too, but my frame of mind was too low. Association? The last thing I needed was to be moulded by another religion. It's like bein in limbo for 25 years. No solid structure emotionally either.
Would we have had the same spiritual dilema, if we were raised simple secular beings? I honestly don't think I would ever have sought a religious life if I wasn't born into it. I have always seen most values as common sense, and simple, but socially, I still feel I don't belong anywhere.
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Lets have some fun...one last music thread...your absolute favorite!
by restrangled ini can't, once again, get our stereo to work... too many remotes, to many machines....so what i would like to hear tonight is your absolute favorite before this site closes.. any type of music...just what represents you!...and happy new year by the way!.
r,.
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Tyrone van leyen
Great songs folks. Here's a little, "Ball of Confusion" by Love and the Rockets.
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How stupid do I think I am?
by AK - Jeff intoday, as i wait for the grout on the kitchen floor to dry, i began to ponder...... i wonder looking back just how insensitive to reality i could have been to have spent the vastness of my youth and midlife believing the obvious lies of jehovah's witnesses.
though i enjoy my freedom, i have no foundational background upon which to prop it.
though having a sense of being reborn, that rebirth has taken place late in life, and has left me feeling somewhat empty.
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Tyrone van leyen
I wonder looking back just how insensitive to reality I could have been to have spent the vastness of my youth and midlife believing the obvious lies of Jehovah's Witnesses. Though I enjoy my freedom, I have no foundational background upon which to prop it.
I think this is a bigger dilema for those born in. When you leave, in most cases, folks just keep doin what they were doin before, or look for soemthin else. A born in looks back and wonders who the hell he was and who the hell he is supposed to be now. This was part of our developmental years. This was the foundation of who we were and our identities. That structure collapsed along with trust in knoledge and people.
Though having a sense of being reborn, that rebirth has taken place late in life, and has left me feeling somewhat empty. Like a man who just emerged from amnesia and has no past from which to draw his moral/ethical/philosophical/spiritual value system, I sometimes wonder who I am, where I have been, and mostly where I am going.
Again, I can fully relate. Yes, and sometimes reality, takes as long as it takes, to be lowered upon our conscious minds. That is painful when you consider, we already lost our youth to it, and now have to face the next 20 years with the conscious reality of its impact. I am ready to say the next 20 years are mine but bitterness, regrets aging, etc. If I will truly own them, I must not allow all that shit to poison my future enjoyment. Who am I? Where have I been ? Where am I going? These questions are necessary for self exploration and development. Something we were not allowed to do. Hence delayed develpment and sense of loss. The abscence of rights of passage also factors into delayed development. Indeed what an empty feeling.
Retrospectively, I seem to be drawing all my perspective from a clouded past. I was drawing no conclusions based on the facts of my experiences - until I left. I feel like a man of 53 making his early forays into the life of an 18 year old. My mind had been pickled in subversive propaganda for most of my life. Though I no longer look for a guide to tell me what I believe and how I should react in this life, I sense that the marathon started and was nearly finished before I began the race. Now the sun sets on the course, and I run it alone.
I've always said this whole damn life is a rigged game. If it ain't some bullshit disease you don't know about, like celiacs takin your life from you. It's some huckster politician feeding us lies, or the media, or some A hole who wants to sell you something. This is all a part of life. You can be a mean bastard, a player, or just shake your shoulders and drift. That is the human dilema. Yes but the real sadness, with born ins, is that everyone should be able to look back and see the reward for something we did, or didn't do. There just ins't any. The org. was our parents and they were delinquent tyrants who took from our life rather than add to it. I am running that race, alone with you Jeff.
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How stupid do I think I am?
by AK - Jeff intoday, as i wait for the grout on the kitchen floor to dry, i began to ponder...... i wonder looking back just how insensitive to reality i could have been to have spent the vastness of my youth and midlife believing the obvious lies of jehovah's witnesses.
though i enjoy my freedom, i have no foundational background upon which to prop it.
though having a sense of being reborn, that rebirth has taken place late in life, and has left me feeling somewhat empty.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well said Jeff. I can certainly relate to that. I must ponder that a moment. I'm gonna get a coffee and tell you what I think in a bit.
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Lets have some fun...one last music thread...your absolute favorite!
by restrangled ini can't, once again, get our stereo to work... too many remotes, to many machines....so what i would like to hear tonight is your absolute favorite before this site closes.. any type of music...just what represents you!...and happy new year by the way!.
r,.
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Tyrone van leyen
Dang sorry, Here's the link
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Lets have some fun...one last music thread...your absolute favorite!
by restrangled ini can't, once again, get our stereo to work... too many remotes, to many machines....so what i would like to hear tonight is your absolute favorite before this site closes.. any type of music...just what represents you!...and happy new year by the way!.
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Tyrone van leyen
Yup, thay was scary Watson Here's a tune done by Liberace. It's the classic, Moonlight Sonata.
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Lets have some fun...one last music thread...your absolute favorite!
by restrangled ini can't, once again, get our stereo to work... too many remotes, to many machines....so what i would like to hear tonight is your absolute favorite before this site closes.. any type of music...just what represents you!...and happy new year by the way!.
r,.
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Tyrone van leyen
Here's the most disturbing version of " Do Ya think I'm sexy" by Tiny Tim.